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Connor Jennings's avatar

Good read (and very funny). If anyone finds themselves having strong opinions about the marital status of a porn star, they should spend less time on the internet

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I talked with an ex-evangelical once, who made a pretty good case for taking this kind of sexual moralizing as stemming from the doctrine that one is saved actually not through works, nor through faith, but through _the public performance of faith_.

Once you understand this idea, many things slot into place. It really doesn't matter what you do in private, as long as you believe yourself to be repentant for your sins, and each day renew your commitment to the faith. Perhaps, if you're a Catholic, you even confess your sins regularly and receive forgiveness. (Never mind that the Catholic Church actually says works are important -- in this regard, right-wing Catholics are just as much practicing the "cafeteria" style as liberation theology leftists.) If publicly questioned, you're allowed to discredit your critic -- as, for instance, the ex-family of Daniel Lavery has sought to do, by saying that as a trans person he has no standing to criticize his father (John Ortberg) for abusing young women and facilitating Daniel's brother's similar abuses.

https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2023/03/29/menlo-church-leadership-acknowledges-abuse-going-back-decades/

https://thewartburgwatch.com/2024/05/17/all-that-glitters-is-not-gold-revelations-about-john-ortbergs-alleged-abuse-while-at-willow-creek-church/

Or see the practices of the Amish, in demanding that victims of abuse forgive their abusers, if the abusers perform a request for forgiveness correctly:

https://itvs.org/films/keep-quiet-and-forgive/

As long as the perpetrator _professes_ loyalty to the principles of the tribe, and encourages others to "do right" as the tribe defines it, he (and it is almost always he) _is forgiven_. If the victim says, "Fuck that, he shouldn't be forgiven, I don't forgive him!" then it's the victim who will be condemned and ostracized. Facing that kind of social sanction, most victims fold, and also profess to forgive.

From the perspective of a liberal individualist / humanist, this is of course monstrous, but it is internally consistent, and one can even see how it is _adaptive_, in the course of social evolution. The kind of society that runs like this is quite good at self-replication, because it is _profession_ of the values that _spreads_ the values. Actually _adhering to the values_ is almost beside the point. Hence you can have Victorian England where everyone professes to be incredibly morally upright, and then at night the Victorian Gentlemen all go slum it in the demimonde. Hence you have Southern Gentlemen who think nothing of raping the help. Hence you have modern Evangelical pastors who sexually abuse children and then say that those children were acting as instruments of the Devil. And hence you have these pathetic men blaring their madonna-whore complexes on the internet -- they profess to value the madonna, and hence cannot be held culpable for participating (financially) in the sins of the whore.

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