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I've had the same feeling about envy/yvne for other words. Words such as "Manipulation". It's always a dirty word when talking about people and neutral when talking about objects. But it's never used positively. If you make manipulation a "neutral" word (whatever that means) then you can have "bad" manipulation and "good" manipulation. We will still obviously argue what entails as bad or good but that's what we do all day long anyway.

I think the benefit is opposing sides are more likely to understand the differences between them. There are many times an argument has spiralled because someone said "you can't do that, that's X" where X is the biased word. If the word is "directionless" or "neutral" then an appropriate response is "yeah and?" or "what's your point?" .

I think if this was adopted it would clean up conversations everywhere.

If you've ever tried to think of a joke to make someone laugh and they did, then you manipulated them. You manipulated them into giving you validation.

If you've ever laughed at a joke to make someone feel validated and they did, then you manipulated them. You manipulated them into feeling validation.

The above sentences are probably sentences that have very little value to anyone. That's the point. If you want to convey a point you have to use more than a collection of biased buzzwords. This comment is not about what words are right or wrong. This comment is about dissolving words that we like to argue about but we don't have to.

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Very nice post.

Would you be willing to go into more detail about this: “I’ve long disliked both the brash Quinean perspective of Epistemology Naturalised and the brash approach of trying to get intuition out of the picture by turning everything into a natural kind and combining it with externalist semantics.”

What do you see wrong in these approaches?

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