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Jerden's avatar

Various thoughts, probably won't be too cohesive...

On the first point, I'm not a parent but I do feel like the healthiest attitude to hope to pass on something true, useful and right while also recognising that they're going to be their own person, shaped by the world and culture around them and not just by their parents. I really can't relate to the attitude of wanting or expecting your children to be the same as you, although at the same time I can understand a certain protectiveness over what children are exposed to, since it's obviously true that children are more easily influenced than adults are. Probably this attitude comes from me having a good relationship with my parents.

I feel like the best defence of disgust is that it often points to something more important beneath it, maybe the average person can't philosophically justify all of their disgust-based taboos (against excrement, incest and cannibalism, for example) but it's probably not a good idea to disregard them entirely based on the word of the first convincing sophist you encounter. Still, I think the best argument in favor of paying attention to disgust is that it may point to a more profound insight or justification, obviously abandoning that attempt at justification entirely is not a great idea for a convincing or reflective movement.

I really don't think that characterising the driving forces of "the right" as nihilists and opportunists is accurate - not because they're not present, as they must be in any movement, but because in my opinion taking people at their word that they really do believe the things they say is usually the best approach. Inconsistencies are more likely to be the result of hypocrisy than some elaborate 4D chess game.

I'm honestly never sure how seriously to take comparisons of things to the demonic, because sometimes it's metaphorical, sometimes its an honest conviction in evil spirits, and sometimes it a combination of the two that makes sense from a certain spiritual understanding of the world. It's a useful rhetorical move to the right audience but only if you can at least justify the comparison with Satan.

Specifically on the last point, I doubt that the "centrists" complaining about cancel culture are the same as the ones to blame for it. Totally depends on what you consider as "centrism" obviously, since both "right" and "left" are subjective the borders of what is considered "centrist" are even more nebulous.

I guess my main concern with the direction politics is heading in is that there seems to be less of a focus on principles and more of a focus on which side is winning. It's occurring on both sides of the spectrum in my opinion, but it really doesn't matter which side it more to blame because it's self-reinforcing - once the other side basically admits that they're going to use any tactic that works to win, it's unclear what the appropriate response is other than to do the same.

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Christopher Nuttall's avatar

As a general rule, natural conservatives – not always republicans, but conservative in outlook – tend to fear change because they’re always close to the margin and a bad year, or even a small disaster, could ruin them. If they are farmers, for example, and they switch from corn to soy or whatever and it turns out the crops fail they’re screwed. A person who has a degree – a lawyer, for example – can afford to be liberal when it comes to immigration because he’s not directly threatened. He’s not going to lose his job to an illegal immigrant. A person who works a menial job, on the other hand, is going to regard immigrants as a threat. And he’ll be right.

The lawyer’s attitudes would change in a heartbeat if there really was a threat, like white upper-class suburbs proclaiming their support for BLM while doing everything in their power to keep black people out of their schools.

To paraphrase the old saying, a liberal is a conservative who thinks change will either benefit him or have a neutral effect. A conservative is a liberal who thinks change will have a very negative effect on him personally.

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