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Rajat Sirkanungo's avatar

If redistribution maximizes total happiness (pleasantness, pleasure) and minimizes total pain, that is, maximizing pleasure minus pain, then even a classical utilitarian like me would have to agree that redistribution is good. You don't even need rights to justify a poor person who is unable to find work with no fault of their own and unable to escape poverty with no fault of their own is justified in stealing bread to survive.

In my view, open borders is basically a form of global redistribution to address global absolute poverty and reduce global inequality. Let people move and find work and settle where-ever they want. Except conservatism (which includes nationalism), the two major ideologies of enlightenment liberalism - Socialism (all its forms) and liberalism (social democracy, social liberalism, classical liberalism) all support a universal moral system, so the rights or happiness of any individual anywhere is intrinsically no less and no more important than the happiness of a rich man in a developed country.

So, both liberalism and socialism should support open borders.

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DavesNotHere's avatar

“where it is necessary for a dignified existence, one has the right to steal, at least in the sense that the government has no right to punish you for it.”

Does this mean that the victim of the theft is obligated to provide it, and cannot prevent it during the act, or seek redress after the fact? If so, it might be a slight exaggeration to say there is no more point to having private property. I suppose one could say that the obligation only exists toward persons who can demonstrate their necessity.

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