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Amanda Brown's avatar

These claims:

“Don’t conceive of punishment as an attempt to ‘undo’ crime or cancel it out symbolically, because there can be no satisfaction here.”

And

“Remember, everyone involved is human, and thus an object of value.”

Are so important. I would just amend to say… “an object of equal intrinsic value.”

Both ends of the political spectrum twist up these fundamental truths. And as a result you have:

On the left - injustice as a result of the idea that the vulnerable/minority groups/victims of trauma have have more intrinsic value (heightened moral status) and therefore their offenders require more punishment.

On the right - injustice as a result of the idea that those who keep order/nationalists/keepers of the “sacred” have more intrinsic value and therefore their offenders require more punishment.

The left prioritizes individual autonomy, the right prioritizes group order. They’re both important and one cannot meaningfully exist without the other.

Both sides misrepresent the justice system as a great equalizer (religious or not, that is a title that ought to be reserved for God or I guess if you want - the universe/karma). And both sides end up diminishing the inherent value of the human beings who violate their preferred moral foundation.

Auros's avatar

There is something truly odd about treating a sex crime as worse than murder. I am fairly confident that the vast majority of rape victims would not prefer having been murdered. Rape is not "a fate worse than death". This is not in any way to minimize it, it can have profound life-long consequences. But you get a life, to work through those consequences.

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