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krunchy's avatar

We can look to the cinematic masterpiece Con Air for an example of even worse luck. A 'good man' (whether military men are 'good' is another article) making the unfortunate mistake of killing a man in a supposedly virtuous act of defence ends up in jail as a result. Then he goes on a plane etc etc John Malkovich.

The laws around self defence and the defence of others are being argued a bit now with a big push toward 'castle' laws in Australia which will inevitably lead to people inviting their neighbours over for a cup of tea and then stabbing them to death. 'She was coming right for me, I have the right to protect myself' and a lack of evidence to the contrary (beyond reasonable doubt) but what does happen to the person who did find themselves being viciously attacked in their living room by their deranged neighbour who 'always seemed nice and kept to herself' within arms reach of a kitchen knife?

A very peaceful person can find themselves in deep shit if someone causes trouble and they finish it without making sure that they only delivered marginally larger damage than what was threatened - and that they don't die in the process.

I feel sorry for judges that need to wade through these scenarios with actual consequence.

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Amanda Brown's avatar

What remains seems to be something similar to how our justice system already operates — that is to combine the aretaic and deontic into a hybrid theory. The deed and the character are after all inseparable. There has to be a judgement about both the deed and the character of the person who committed it. So first there has to be a judgement re the deed and this is to decide if the person deserves to be punished at all. That is purely deontic — if the person broke a law (or some shared moral code) then they must receive some sort of…something (punishment is a loaded word and too narrow). Deciding on what exactly that “something” is, is where the aretaic judgement comes in…and we do see this to some extent in our current justice system with first time offenders typically receiving lighter punishment than repeat offenders.

This is actually the first time I’ve encountered some of these ideas and terms so I could be way off here but I dunno maybe this hybrid theory idea makes some kind of sense 🤷🏻‍♀️

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