I don’t like to repeat myself in close proximity, but I wanted to revisit the argument I made for voting for the lesser evil earlier in the election cycle and spell it out in more detail.
Every time I've ever voted in an election I've always had some reservations about the candidate I voted for. The exception was when I was a candidate -- only then could I vote for someone I supported unreservedly.
At the end of the day, the most important thing is do what you think is necessary and best when you vote. Forget all of the moral arguments and explanations. I'm always curious who these more explainers are. What makes them know more than you? Determine for yourself what's best to either vote or not vote.
I think I can easily summarize this article by saying this:
Imagine you can vote between two slave master who will have you as a slave. You have the option to vote one slaveowner over the other. If one slave master says they will whip you 10 times a day and the other one says they'll only whip you 5 times a day, it doesn't mean that you support the policies or personal traits of the slave master who will only whip you 5 times a day if you were to vote for them.
You are only voting to be whipped and punished less. "Voting for the less of two evils, if you will.
I understand, I guess, that we will need something else to get out of this very serious situation. We will see what happens, I hope that the people will analyze the future of events in order to make the best decisions.
Regarding that, I would say that you could "vote with your conscience" and vote for them. Also, you could have a protest vote and choose not to vote at all.
One thing I've started to grow annoyed with is the idea of voting altogether. Really, think about. Why is there any voting at all? What kind of joke is humanity that we would have to vote for someone to make decisions for us. I'm a smart person. I don't need someone to make decisions for me in my personal life.
Why do I have to vote for someone to make decisions for me in the political life? When I ask this question, I usually get the response that "you may not need other people to dictate you around in life, but there are other dumb people in life who do need to be lead around by the nose."
I share the view that we can manage our lives, for those who cannot, closely monitored microstructures could be a solution (among others), as in ancient tribes.
Who can judge those who need guidance? Are they fully responsible for this inability? How do we know? Of course, there are those who disinterest themselves etc., I do not speak about them, but of those who lack certain intellectual abilities, cognitive...unfortunately, we are not all equal in capabilities, it is like that.
The argument of the lesser evil is good, but not in this case, elections have been a deception for a very long time, all candidates work towards the same result. To believe that there is a difference between mammon and satan, is not to understand what it is about, unless one knows very well what he does. We are in hell, satan reigns there, his is their mammon, the readers who criticized your previous argument have understood it well, I guess, because I did not read the other post. There is no lesser evil here.
The only solution is to get out of hell, we have the means, but not enough will since we are still there. Lack of thought, of deep analysis...
To argue politics, from a philosophical point of view, we must be very well informed, otherwise our opinion is only worth to us.
We cannot always do as we please in life, let alone in society, or we are partly responsible for the good management of it. By wanting to do well, we can do badly, many things are taken into account, which may have indirect repercussions in the future etc.
This does not mean that we are not free, only that our actions, decisions etc. leave consequences that can impact others.
Ex. even isolated in the forest, country...helping a wounded animal can do more harm than good if you don’t know how to act correctly.
Brilliant! Re-stacking it, even though the utility of that is less than the change in my pocket and I haven’t got dressed yet. But still. And also I have to look up “cubi.” If that’s a real word then not only am I subsequently going to have to look up “succubi” I might start finding ways to use both words while praying for this election to please finally be over.
Every time I've ever voted in an election I've always had some reservations about the candidate I voted for. The exception was when I was a candidate -- only then could I vote for someone I supported unreservedly.
I agree with you. Why do we need to have other people making decisions for us. Let me be my own master.
That’s not what he said at all.
At the end of the day, the most important thing is do what you think is necessary and best when you vote. Forget all of the moral arguments and explanations. I'm always curious who these more explainers are. What makes them know more than you? Determine for yourself what's best to either vote or not vote.
I think I can easily summarize this article by saying this:
Imagine you can vote between two slave master who will have you as a slave. You have the option to vote one slaveowner over the other. If one slave master says they will whip you 10 times a day and the other one says they'll only whip you 5 times a day, it doesn't mean that you support the policies or personal traits of the slave master who will only whip you 5 times a day if you were to vote for them.
You are only voting to be whipped and punished less. "Voting for the less of two evils, if you will.
The example here is good for the lesser evil, but it does not apply to our situation, because there is no lesser evil, only the whole evil.
Everything is rigged.
That's one way of looking at it. My preference would be to vote for a greater of two goods, rather than a lesser of two evils.
I understand, I guess, that we will need something else to get out of this very serious situation. We will see what happens, I hope that the people will analyze the future of events in order to make the best decisions.
What if there is a non-evil candidate who is admittedly dramatically unlikely to win?
Regarding that, I would say that you could "vote with your conscience" and vote for them. Also, you could have a protest vote and choose not to vote at all.
One thing I've started to grow annoyed with is the idea of voting altogether. Really, think about. Why is there any voting at all? What kind of joke is humanity that we would have to vote for someone to make decisions for us. I'm a smart person. I don't need someone to make decisions for me in my personal life.
Why do I have to vote for someone to make decisions for me in the political life? When I ask this question, I usually get the response that "you may not need other people to dictate you around in life, but there are other dumb people in life who do need to be lead around by the nose."
I share the view that we can manage our lives, for those who cannot, closely monitored microstructures could be a solution (among others), as in ancient tribes.
Who can judge those who need guidance? Are they fully responsible for this inability? How do we know? Of course, there are those who disinterest themselves etc., I do not speak about them, but of those who lack certain intellectual abilities, cognitive...unfortunately, we are not all equal in capabilities, it is like that.
The argument of the lesser evil is good, but not in this case, elections have been a deception for a very long time, all candidates work towards the same result. To believe that there is a difference between mammon and satan, is not to understand what it is about, unless one knows very well what he does. We are in hell, satan reigns there, his is their mammon, the readers who criticized your previous argument have understood it well, I guess, because I did not read the other post. There is no lesser evil here.
The only solution is to get out of hell, we have the means, but not enough will since we are still there. Lack of thought, of deep analysis...
To argue politics, from a philosophical point of view, we must be very well informed, otherwise our opinion is only worth to us.
We cannot always do as we please in life, let alone in society, or we are partly responsible for the good management of it. By wanting to do well, we can do badly, many things are taken into account, which may have indirect repercussions in the future etc.
This does not mean that we are not free, only that our actions, decisions etc. leave consequences that can impact others.
Ex. even isolated in the forest, country...helping a wounded animal can do more harm than good if you don’t know how to act correctly.
Brilliant! Re-stacking it, even though the utility of that is less than the change in my pocket and I haven’t got dressed yet. But still. And also I have to look up “cubi.” If that’s a real word then not only am I subsequently going to have to look up “succubi” I might start finding ways to use both words while praying for this election to please finally be over.